Why no love for tarmac rallies?

  • Stefan Walker

    They are too many events in Europe to begin with! I think they should be more tarmac and they should also expend the championship. I remember they had something like 15 events in 2008!

    • wrblog

      True, but if they’re discussing China & Japan then I guess we can again think about events which are not strictly Europe based. Sign of better days ahead?

      • haztoys

        I like tarmac rally … Any one who feels it takes less nerve to run tarmac has never raced rally… You really pay on tarmac when you make a mistake speeds and grip are so much higher…

  • Alexandre Lourenco

    Well, for me tarmac rallies are the best because the cars look great and aggressive. Another advantage is the fact that roads are more accessible for the fans than some gravel road on the middle of nowhere.

    • wrblog

      Excellent point, the one I thought to include in article but didn’t – accessibility!

  • Jason Anthony

    I think that one of the challenges of running a tarmac rally is the issue of obtaining permits for road closures. This is one of the reasons why there are only a few tarmac rallies in the USA. I believe that rally championships in the UK face the same problem. That is why quite a few crews from the UK go across to Ireland to compete on tarmac. In Ireland, the local councils are much more lenient when it comes to road closures than in the UK.

    I agree that if new tarmac events are to be added, there needs to be variety. Seeing a tarmac rally somewhere in Eastern Europe would be amazing… would love to see the WRC teams tackle some of the roads in the Czech Republic or Slovakia. I sometimes wish that Rally Poland was run on tarmac instead of gravel… I have to be honest about the gravel rallies… If it wasn’t for the door placards, I am not sure I could differentiate 4 photos taken in Mexico, Portugal, Greece, and Sardinia. I like the hot, twisty, rough stuff, but when they make up nearly 33% of the calendar, I think that is a bit much.

    I think that after years of the “tarmac-heavy” IRC, the new ERC has struck a really nice balance with their calendar. 2 winter rallies with different characters, 4 tarmac, and 4 gravel. I honestly find some of the stages in the ERC much more interesting than the WRC.

  • Guest

    One more thought, I think that after years of the “tarmac-heavy” IRC, the new ERC has struck a really nice balance with their calendar. 2 winter rallies with different characters, 4 tarmac, and 4 gravel. I honestly find some of the stages in the ERC much more interesting than the WRC.

  • Dunc

    I have always thought the Manx would make a great WRC round as it’s always been one of my favourite rallies from the old British Championship days, the stages are amazing and some are also very fast and spectacular too. I would dearly love to see it as a WRC round one day.

  • mattjelonek

    Dear sir,

    Japan can be a Tarmac round!

    • wrblog

      Yes, of course it can, but I was referring to the linked article on Autosport. And in that article “sources” say WRC does not want another tarmac rally and that Japanese round would not be on tar. Shame!

  • PK

    Tarmac rallies suck, for two reasons. One, tarmac doesn’t look spectacular on TV because the cars don’t slide as much as on gravel or snow. Two, competition on dirt and snow is one of the main things that separate rallying from circuit racing. Friends of mine who aren’t rally fans are blown away to see cars traveling sideways and rapidly on dirt and snow. Tarmac rallies don’t have the same effect.

  • Tarmac rallies, from my personal expierence (went to the German WRC round for 10 years now), are much more enjoyable for a spectator. You never need to be in fear of getting a huge rock into your face and because of the dust you only see the cars for a very short time anyway (as if it wasn’t already short enough), obviously if these cars are on a straight line or the gravel is quite thin or muddy like in Finland or GB, then the expierence is much better.

    Well I think Poland won’t stick around with the WRC for too long, because once the FIA states that they need to throw out at least one rally out of the calendar to include China and Japan, then manufacturers, especially VW, would want Poland to get out, Although the rally is great, it’s too similar to Finland and China economically seen makes much more sense, as long as the drivers won’t have to expierence something like back in 1999. Ironically that was the last time we saw a Toyota having it’s engine cover full of sprayed champagne….

    http://youtu.be/GyVrntxz2OA

  • Anders Nilsson

    How about Ivory Coast rally? We need more rallies outside of Europe, remove Poland and Portugal.

    • wrblog

      There really are countless options available, if we only think of locations and venues, but some of those ideas (not necessarily any of yours) fall at the first obstacle and that is meeting (and exceeding) FIA’s standards. However, knowing that FIA and promoters are actively pursuing new territories is encouraging.

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