Video showing (too much of) Kubica’s SS14 off?

  • Daniel Zarzycki

    here You got example, how it ends when brakes are working fine .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai-XnEjEvYs&feature=youtu.be

    • wrblog

      This was one of the best passes he made in the entire event, great stuff.

      • Marko S.

        I didn’t hear RK’s stage end comments about the incident, did he say it was a brake failure like they didn’t work, or perhaps something like “no feeling in the brakes” or some other brake misbehavior? It’s obvious they were working, maybe they got stuck under braking so he couldn’t take the tight corner following?

        • Lucas Stolarczyk

          the pedal apparently fell into the floor, he just used handbrake

  • Jan-Michael

    I think it says something that Kubica’s onboard for SS14 is missing from WRC+. They have a disgusting habit of not uploading the “embarassing” ones.

    PS: This has been REALLY pissing me off. I sent them an email about it when they didn’t upload Ogier’s multiple crashes in Germany 2014, and they responded with some BS about the quality of the video. When I replied that it was bullshit, because the videos had already been shown on the official highlights, they didn’t even respond!

    • wrblog

      You know what’s even more strange? They did not upload Kubica’s SS10 onboard either. It’s the 50+ kilometer stage which he won by a large margin. Really makes you wonder.

      • Jan-Michael

        Nor did they upload Meeke’s SS13/15, which were fastest times. My guess is the driver or the team “requests” that they don’t upload it, and they don’t.

        • wrblog

          In all honesty, I am having a very hard time navigating through onboards section on WRC+, everything takes ages to load, even though my 20/20 fiber should be fast enough (and is fast enough for anything else) so I didn’t even check if anything else is missing. You might be onto something here, but it would be cool to hear it from them. Although I don’t think they’ll actually announce it publicly.

          • Jan-Michael

            I hadn’t complained about it before, because I want WRC+ to succeed, but it is ludicrously slow to load.

    • Przemek Potoczny

      Jean-Michel: I think it says nothing. Otherwise how can you explain that there was no (I don’t know if there is now) onboard from SS10? Guess what R.Kubica did on this stage…
      Generally I’m far away to “judge” any situation if I have no proof that matters gone the way you both with wrblog are trying to show.

      • Jan-Michael

        Yeah, fastest time! They didn’t put up Meeke’s fastest times on SS13/15 either. I think if a driver sets a fastest time, they don’t want anyone to see how they did it. It also would explain why most of the onboards have no intercom audio, so you can’t hear pacenotes, even though on the television version you can hear them perfectly!

        Look, I am a huge RK fan, but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his onboard from SS14 is mysteriously missing, when it’s one of the only onboards that people are really interested in seeing.

      • wrblog

        We, or at least I, am not suggesting anything really, I am just openly curious about the reasons for the missing onboards. To my knowledge they did not explain the reasons why these onboards are missing. Perhaps they have every right to not show certain footage and maybe they also have the right to keep their reasons for themselves, but I am hoping that’s not the case. We are not unreasonable people – if they cannot show it or if team or driver asked them to not show it, we will understand, but until we know, we can only guess.

  • Lucas Stolarczyk

    For me this video shows and confirms RKs words, after breaks failed, he tried downshift and used handbrake to slow the car down, but it wasn’t enough. I cannot see anything that would prove otherwise.
    I dont think he would try to lie about what happened. He was always no-nonsense guy, and he was always first to admit to mistakes, if he was at blame. With a car build in a rush (just couple of weeks) I don’t thinks it’s so hard to believe the breaks failed in such a dramatic way.
    His preparation is always immaculate so it’s impossible he would miss a corner in his notes. Listening to co-driver last year, there were always notes about corners following the flying finish.
    Regardless of what happened on this stage at this corner, this rally showed great talent and potential this guy has. I’d rather watch his exciting performance, with blistering speed, best times and fight at the top, but with occasional offs, than a driver who just try to carefully navigate through stage and finish around 10th place on each try with 1-2sec/km off the pace.

    • wrblog

      I’m not actually saying he is lying, because there is also another option here – he could have been pushing very hard, started braking for the corner, brakes caught on and then failed which resulted in a crash. It just seems to me that the thickest tyre marks on the road belong to front wheels, and also the angle of the car and trails suggest fronts were locked too so brakes probably worked at least for a second or two. I don’t think he would be pushing like that if the brakes broke earlier, so it had to happen at this particular corner.
      And don’t get me wrong, I will take Kubica’s bravery, determination and spirit over so many other drivers and their calculations, slowness and general lack of balls. In 2 or 3 years he has built speed some drivers will never be able to achieve, period. We all like to swear to “if in doubt, flat out” mantra, well, here’s one guy who drives by it! :)

      • Lucas Stolarczyk

        It’s all possible. It’s just a shame he wasn’t able to finish the rally. He did a great job clawing back the rankings after problems on Thursday and Rally 2 penalties.
        Nevertheless we could see great potential in him and the team. This season will be interesting and hopefully he will mix a tiny bit at the top. He knows he has to work on efficiency and I believe he will improve a lot in terms of finishing stages and rallies problem free, without compromising on speed too much.
        Let’s get it started!

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